Nationalsolo

Hi

That seems very odd.

When you open VP and go to Options/Disk  what is entered in the Cache Folder box? 

Nat

Hi

".....

Problem 1.

Apparently overriding cache location does not work, not even in version 8.20....."

I often use a USB hard drive to store the cache files for a big project (Drive E) This has worked with no problem. Under the Options tab click the Disk tab and then down to the Cache Folder box. Browse to your selected drive  and designated folder on that drive. Click OK and all loaded clips/files will go to the folder VP generated folder VideoPadCache  in the folder you created on the drive you chose to use.

"...Problem 2.

The cache won't clean automatically when I quit VideoPad...."

AFAIK emptying the cache is a user task and is not done automatically when you quit the program. If this were the case you would have to wait each time for it to load the clips again if you load your project from a vpj file. When using my E drive the cache clears with no problem . The Cache Folder box remains pointing to the correct drive and does not revert to the C drive even though the original VideoPadCache folder is still there.

Does the Cache Folder box on the Options/Disk page actually point to your correct location? Obviously if I use a different USB slot the address will not be the E drive.

Nat

Hi

When sequence view is full screen, dragging the red line to a split point along the blue bar you can click the Split button almost straight away before a popup appears. I have no problem here with VP 8.20 in this respect splitting numerous times to test. Works every time

However, more annoying is that if you hang around with the cursor stationary on the blue bar, the sequence plays automatically and the control options disappear.

Nat

Hi

I think the problem was that chuser couldn't get that far, the popup message came up when "video file" was selected so no choice of export types was available.

Try these possibilities...

1.  Save your project.
2. Instead of clicking on the Export Video tab try clicking the Export option on the  topmost toolbar and then clicking the Export Video icon on the new Export toolbar that appears. It may link from through from that (but I doubt it) but give it a try.
3. Try the Export option from the green Menu button.(May also still fail)
4. If you still have the vpsetup.exe file for the version you have then completely uninstall VP from the Control Panel. Re-install VP from the vpsetup.exe file you have.
5. If all these fail then uninstall anyway and use Borate's link to the latest version or download it from here......

https://www.nchsoftware.com/videopad/versions.html

The latest Beta version (8.24) if you want to try that, is here...

https://www.nchsoftware.com/beta/

Best of luck

Nat

Hi

Borate's link does open a small download screen for the latest setup.exe file. However if you don't see this use the NCH download page...

https://www.nchsoftware.com/videopad/versions.html

Make a note of where your existing vpsetup.exe file is and also your license code. (I keep these in a separate named folder as I often swap between versions)

All you then need to do is to save the latest version from the NCH site (perhaps in your download folder) . Open the folder and double click the vpsetup.exe file. The new version should install over your original but retain your save/export folder settings etc.

Give it a try and if you find it's not working you can simply re-run the original vpsetup.exe to re-install your existing version. You have your license code if you are asked to use it.

This is pretty old thread. It's best to start a new one as it will save trawling through entries dating from 2016.Use the same (or similar) subject line of course .Everything will then be fresh and relevant to the latest version or the one you are using.

Nat

Hi

Assuming your project runs OK when you preview it what export settings are you using?

Nat

Hi

You can place any number of individual clips sequentially onto the timeline on any of the Video Tracks. Video tracks are (within reason) unlimited but using too many can slow down  processing. Note also that upper tracks will "hide" (overlay) the videos on lower tracks that are directly beneath them.

Nat

Hi

There are several ways to do this..

1) Using a specially created image.

First you need a circle. If you have a graphics package you can simply create a jpg of a suitable red circle on a monocolour background... say..bright green... In this case it's 1024 x 576  (16:9)

• Place this image onto Video Track 2 above the main video
• Click the FX box for your image and select Green Screen effect.
• Use the pipette colour picker to select the green background  from the image and the red circle will now be visible on a transparent background.
• Add Scale effect and a Position effect to move the red circle to indicate the object

This method does require a bit of preparation to get the circle the correct thickness etc, but once set up it can be saved and used in later projects.

2)  Using  normal Videopad Text

• Create a text that is just a capital O or lower case o. (You  alter the size later with the Scale effect.)
• Set the text to red.
• Automatically the text will be placed on Video Track 2 at the cursor position but you can drag it left/right to overlay your main video.
• Click the FX  and add a Scale  and Position effects so the object of interest is surrounded. You can monitor this using the Sequence Preview display or set dual preview screens under Options
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You need to experiment to decide on the font and size that gives a reasonable circle. Note that Scale will only go up to 3

3) Using Videopad's graphics Clipart  library.

• Click Menu/File/Add Files/Add Images from NCH Clipart Library........
• 

There are a numerous image types available to download including arrows. However it is a bit short on simple geometric shapes.(something I have recommended in the past)  But give these a try. Like any image you can apply the Scale and Position effects to put them where you want.

Nat

Hi

Put the video on Video track 1. Create the text and place this above the video on Video Track 2. By default the text clip will automatically appear at the red cursor line position, but if it's not in the correct place you can drag it left/right to re-position it. Note that in order to see your text in the Sequence Preview screen the red cursor line must pass through both the text image and the video clip ...

Nat

Hi

That's correct. I haven't checked but possibly another "setuo.exe" might alter that registry entry and give a "version" that overwrites.

Nat

Hi

Downloaded OK. Very nifty video with 32 tracks. Well done!  As you can see it all played OK in preview. Currently exporting as a 3840 x 2160 mp4 at 29.97 fps.

33.5% exported so far...........

I'll edit this post when it completes and let you know if it's all there.  Currently using VP 8.20.

Hmmmm!  Exported video stopped after 18 secs.

I'll try another export....

1280 x 720 mp4 exported correctly.  No idea why first one stopped.

Nat

Hi

This is not a bug. 

NCH say it's a behaviour difference  between versions and is there for testing feedback)  in the version you have a clip dropped manually onto the timeline overwrites the existing clip. IMHO ALL clips dropped to the timeline should insert themselves and there should be no overwriting.

To explain. When you install VP from the setup.exe file, you actually install a "version" of the program. It could be the A version; the B version etc.(It seems to be pot luck which installs.)  Each version is complete but some features behave differently.  In your version you have installed a version where dragging/ dropping clips directly on the timeline cause an overwrite and not an insert. The idea behind A/B testing is for users to give feedback on options they don't think are working in the expected way (like you have done here)  The vertical or horizontal split popup that appears next to the red cursor line is an example, or the "hamburger" File button another.

Try this......

Without anything - no uninstall or anything- simply double click the setup.exe file again. This action will overwrite your "version" of VP with another. You may have to do this several times if the "version" that comes up displays the same behaviour.

As an example.

My original install of VP 8.20  did not insert clips, it annoying overwrote existing clips, but re-running the setup file a second time produced a "version" of 8.20 that did insert correctly.

The A/B idea can cause some confusion as support users can find their versions different to each other. Borate's version inserted clips OK, whilst mine didn't, so interpreting a users problem was awkward.

Nat

Hi

You could also try this..

• Click the RPReplay clip in the clip bin
• In the Clip Preview window set the Start value and the End value as shown  (1.34.265 and 5.30.186)  This trims the clip in the bin to the values of the faulty timeline clip.

• Click the I< button under the Sequence Preview window to set the red cursor line to the start of the timeline
• Click the RPReplay clip in the clip bin and select  Overlay on Sequence at Cursor.
• Play the timeline. The re-timed clip will play over the faulty one and seems OK here.

Does that solve the problem?

Nat

Hi

If you can..load a 2-3 minute film to VP that displays this behavior. Goto  Menu/File/Save Portable Project As

Navigate to a suitable destination folder (or select Desktop) and then click Select a folder

VP will save a copy of all the component files as well as a vpj file in a dated folder.

Upload that folder (or all the individual components)  to dropbox or a similar file sharing website, (e.g. Google Drive) Make it public and post the link to it on the forum.

Someone will download the files and reconstruct your project exactly as you have it and take a look for any problems.

Nat

Hi misterpaul

Some of the options may not be visible under the clip preview pane depending upon the size you have made it or whether you are displaying dual preview windows which also restricts the amount of display space. Whatever the case there will always be a chevron visible on the right, under the clip preview pane.

      Click this to see the missing options in a menu form.

If the pane is made larger by dragging the short white bars, that will enlarge the preview display area and the options should become visible...But the chevron will still be there at the bottom right.

Clicking that will give you the menu with placement choices....

On the other hand  If you right click any clip in the bin on the screen left you will obtain a similar menu of placement choices as well as other options regarding that clip.

Nat

Hi Borate

A THIRD overwrite of 8.20 gave a version with the horizontal scissors popup  and in which the split action was working correctly.

This is probably the reason why some users find a problem that we can't. It must depend on which version they happen to load......A/B or C (as it seems there are three versions here.)  I passed the observation on to NCH (S)

Nat

Hi Borate

Just loaded it........back to vertical  scissors!  But at least it's splitting OK now. 

I'll re-install over a second time.....No ...still vertical!......and now Splitting to the right is not working again!   WT* is going on here.

I'll try another overwrite.......No..Scissors still vertical but splitting seems OK now.   ?????

Seems like one of the  A/B testing versions has the bug and not the other. Pot luck then which one you get. Not good for users.

Nat

Hi Borate

Version 8.18

1. Add clip to bin
2. Drag/drop clip to timeline.
3. Place red cursor line on the clip
4. Click the scissors.......Clip splits.
5. Move cursor along a bit to the right
6. Click the scissors again.........CLIP DOES NOT SPLIT!             No part of the section to the right will split!
7. Move cursor line to left of first split and the scissors will work!

How come THIS is not working now?

Just checked v 8.16 and this seems to act in the same way. Moving cursor right after any split there is no split but moving left of split it does split.

Nat

Hi

The dark UI is now fixed . it cant be changed to the "white"  version

Nat

Hi Borate

Your clips are marked "unavailable"   with the message....(from the forum)....

This attachment is not available. It may have been removed or the person who shared it may not have permission to share it to this location. 

However, I re-ran the vpsetup.exe file again to reload VP 8.16 again on top of the existing VP 8.16 and now the overwriting does not take place, IMAGE ONE can be pulled back and inserted in front of IMAGE TWO with no problem. In fact they can be moved about and inserted at any join or position.

I can't understand why NCH have an "invisible"  version  that has faults inbuilt. Most people wouldn't know that reloading the SAME program on top the existing  with the SAME setup file would probably cure the fault.

Nat

Hi

Question.......... How do you move IMAGE ONE so that it in front of IMAGE TWO?

Try dragging it back?........It overwrites IMAGE TWO!

Try dragging IMAGE TWO to the end of IMAGE ONE?.......It overwrites IMAGE THREE!

Move the cursor to the start of IMAGE TWO?.....There is no option to select IMAGE ONE  on the timeline and Insert it at the cursor.

Obviously I could simply delete it, set the cursor and reload it again to the cursor from the bin and then close any gaps. But that is awkward if I have edited it. I would have to re-edit it.

If the clips are the same length you can do a 16 puzzle move with it.......Drag it up to Track2. Move IMAGE TWO along and then drop IMAGE ONE back down into the gap.  But if they are all different lengths things get complicated.

A simple drag and drop OUGHT TO BE THE WAY TO DO THIS BUT IT DOESN'T WORK.

Answers on a postcard.

Nat

Hi

Iv'e just checked the Beta version of VP 8.18.   Seems to have been fixed

Give it a try..

https://www.nchsoftware.com/beta/

Nat

Hi

If you are filming with two cameras side by side then to get a red/cyan anaglyph film do this....Note that the LEFT image will be RED and the RIGHT image will be CYAN

• Place the right hand clip (RED) on Video track 1
• Place the left hand clip (CYAN) on Video Track 2
• Align the two clips vertically......
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• Click the FX for Video Track 1 and select the Color Curves effect
• Click the RGB down arrow and select  the Green graph. Pull the top right hand marker vertically down to the bottom. The Clip on Video Track 1 will now be Magenta....
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• Click the down arrow once more and select the Blue graph. Pull the top right marker vertically down to the bottom. The clip on Video track 1 will now be RED.......
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• Click the FX for Video Track 2 and select the Color Curves effect.
• Click the RGB down arrow and select  the Red graph. Pull the top right hand marker vertically down to the bottom. The clip on Video Track 2 will now be Cyan.
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• Click the FX for Video Track 2 again and select the Transparency effect.
• Set the Opacity for Video Track 2 to 50%....
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• The sequence will play as a RED/CYAN anaglyph in colour but will be rather dark...
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• The next step is to create a sequence of the timeline.
• At the left end of the timeline click the + ...... This will create a sequence in the bin and clear the timeline.
• Open the Sequence clip bin and drag the created sequence back to Video Track 1 on the timeline.
• Click the FX and select the Exposure effect. Adjust the exposure to suit the anaglyph clip...
• 
• This should play in true 3d. (Although in this example I forgot to register the red clip using Position but I think you get the gist.)

An ordinary, single,  2D clip can be exported as a pseudo 3D anaglyph if at export the option 3D Video File is selected and Stereoscopic Format is set for Anaglyph Image, Red-Cyan

There are no settings to adjust the Re/Cyan separation so the depth effect for the 2D image relative to the screen is not very effective. Here is the result using one of the stereo clips from my above example... and Yes, there is some separation

Nat

Hi

Alpha blending problem. ..and yes, NCH checking it out.  There isn't a work around until it's fixed apart from not feathering although it's still there. Try it with near identical colours. like the blue sky here..(Mask outside/feather 0) i.e. use the same image. Even with feathering set to 0 there is a thin grey line..

Feather set at 0.5.....

Try this with a white blank over a white blank. With the feather set to 0 and with no diagonal  edges the object edge is invisible  Diagonal edges however show up as thin grey line....

Now increase the feather to any value above 0.  ALL edges become visible. Feather = 0.5 in this white on white example....

Nat

Hi Borate

This is the result where there is a clip with boats on Track 2 with a mask roughly drawn around one boat. The area around the mask is made transparent. It's not for moving the boat it's just to check what is transparent..

On Track 1 is another clip. The mask is moved to the upper right and the feathering set at maximum....

It's easy to see (at least here) that there is a grey outline around the masked overlaid object. This can be made to vary from 0 (barely visible) up to an obvious shaded area. It seems that the "gradual transparency" around the edge produced by the feathering is not executing correctly. It's also more obvious when the "object" is placed against a lighter area. The object (the masked area) should just fade out at the edges . It doesn't.

Nat