iKlee Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 hello, i've downloaded wavepad 3.1.4 and i'm trying to realize if and how it may be useful for the vlf radio analysis. since it does not show "master" on the label, i suppose it is the free version. please can you tell me where i can read detailed differences between the 2 software? i use a powerbook 1.67 ghz with OS X 10.4.11. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longmorn3 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 hello,i've downloaded wavepad 3.1.4 and i'm trying to realize if and how it may be useful for the vlf radio analysis. since it does not show "master" on the label, i suppose it is the free version. please can you tell me where i can read detailed differences between the 2 software? i use a powerbook 1.67 ghz with OS X 10.4.11. thanks! You have to go to the NCH website and compare the two versions. The free Wavepad details can be found at: http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html. The info on the WavePad Master is at: http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/masters.html#101. I have the Master's Edition and I recommend it. Have a great day. Regards, -Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKlee Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 You have to go to the NCH website and compare the two versions. The free Wavepad details can be found at: http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html. The info on the WavePad Master is at: http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/masters.html#101. I have the Master's Edition and I recommend it. Have a great day. Regards, -Phil thank you, phil. for what i can see, features in the 2s appear to be the same. is there anything i'm missing? probably... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooroo Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 thank you, phil.for what i can see, features in the 2s appear to be the same. is there anything i'm missing? probably... :-) Probably :-) Has it occurred to you that you might not be able both to obtain (by a legal download) a free piece of software which is also advertised (from the very same company) at a reasonable license price, with both pieces of software having the identical set of operating features? If not, then you might stop to think back, through all of your past experiences, when such a situation has presented itself to you :-) Now that you have thought about it (for a fraction of a second, I presume), you may have some different thoughts on the matter. There is no substitute for logic and common sense--as brutal as this thinking process may sometimes may be!!! gooroo (The Phrendly Philosopher) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKlee Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 you're right or, if you prefer, i agree completely. there is no substitute to logic and c.s. my logic and c.s. say that since i do not read any difference between the 2s, i will go on with the freeware. :-) in the same time i'll try to discover any difference may arise (even beyond the c.s.- as q. m. is suggesting us) iKlee Probably :-) Has it occurred to you that you might not be able both to obtain (by a legal download) a free piece of software which is also advertised (from the very same company) at a reasonable license price, with both pieces of software having the identical set of operating features? If not, then you might stop to think back, through all of your past experiences, when such a situation has presented itself to you :-) Now that you have thought about it (for a fraction of a second, I presume), you may have some different thoughts on the matter. There is no substitute for logic and common sense--as brutal as this thinking process may sometimes may be!!! gooroo (The Phrendly Philosopher) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nchar Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hi, The special free version you can download from the product home page is entirely freeware. It will never expire and you can use it free forever. Just make sure to download the free version. We make it free in the hope more professional or business users will upgrade to the Masters Edition version which is the one we normally sell. The Masters Edition version has a few more features with the professional in mind (check the Help manual of that version to see the additional features). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKlee Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 hello, and thanks for your suggestion. In the Help pages I found this one: "A number of professional tools for WavePad are only available if you have purchased an upgrade to WavePad Master's Edition. These features include the batch file processor, keyboard macros, projects, bookmarks, regions and the region assembler." So I finally understood the points between the 2s and will try to realize what they mean in my workflow. Thanks again. Hi, The special free version you can download from the product home page is entirely freeware. It will never expire and you can use it free forever. Just make sure to download the free version. We make it free in the hope more professional or business users will upgrade to the Masters Edition version which is the one we normally sell. The Masters Edition version has a few more features with the professional in mind (check the Help manual of that version to see the additional features). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooroo Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 hello,and thanks for your suggestion. In the Help pages I found this one: "A number of professional tools for WavePad are only available if you have purchased an upgrade to WavePad Master's Edition. These features include the batch file processor, keyboard macros, projects, bookmarks, regions and the region assembler." So I finally understood the points between the 2s and will try to realize what they mean in my workflow. Thanks again. --------------------------------- I find it very difficult to imagine how one who is doing anything at least half-way serious can find any utility with a "special" version of WavePad in which the batch file processor, bookmarks, and regions have deliberately been removed so that it can be offered at no cost and continue to "work" forever (i.e., after an initial trial period)!! Perhaps your "workflow" can tolerate this forever lack of essential features. After you answer this question, you may confirm my oft-repeated claim that "The best things in (software) life are not free". In other words, don't waste your time just for the sake of claiming that you somehow scored a coup and got it free. Pay up, save a lot of aggravation, and get something which has utility beyond an initial short trial period (two weeks) during which all features designed into the licensed version are fully operational. gooroo (your Phrendly Philosopher) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKlee Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 hello gooroo, your philosophy is probably right and easy to understand. anyway, just to clarify a little bit (and, be sure :-) no more than 1 time), i'll say that, though i'm using audio software for vlf radiowaves research since 1993, words such as "regions" or "bookmarks" are unknown to me, at the moment, in this field. moreover just say how different any of us experience may be especially regarding what *you* have to do, i am using the mac since 1997 with soundedit, macthescope, amadeus II and pro, spectrafoo, signalscope pro and some more. still searching for something new and (hopefully) better, even to be proposed to other friends and collegues in our worldwide association (The Inspire Project) and journal, for the mac area, of course. so far i have to say that the best suited for the vlf purpose is probably "spectrumlab" a freeware from a german ham, for win pc only. maybe spectrumlab lacks a lot of very important features for the music or other audio fields but, as i said before, it depends on what *you* need to do. i do not see any vlf related software in the mac community, so i have to look for in different roads in order to realize the products who better fit with our needs. anyway, since i'm not an english language guy, i may have misunderstood your meaning. i'm sorry about that. i'd like take this opportunity to suggest (if i may) to the wavepad people to better clarify the difference between the 2 edition in the wavepad web pages directly. from my perspective potentially buyers will find that explanation useful. have a nice day. ---------------------------------I find it very difficult to imagine how one who is doing anything at least half-way serious can find any utility with a "special" version of WavePad in which the batch file processor, bookmarks, and regions have deliberately been removed so that it can be offered at no cost and continue to "work" forever (i.e., after an initial trial period)!! Perhaps your "workflow" can tolerate this forever lack of essential features. After you answer this question, you may confirm my oft-repeated claim that "The best things in (software) life are not free". In other words, don't waste your time just for the sake of claiming that you somehow scored a coup and got it free. Pay up, save a lot of aggravation, and get something which has utility beyond an initial short trial period (two weeks) during which all features designed into the licensed version are fully operational. gooroo (your Phrendly Philosopher) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooroo Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 hello gooroo,your philosophy is probably right and easy to understand. anyway, just to clarify a little bit (and, be sure :-) no more than 1 time), i'll say that, though i'm using audio software for vlf radiowaves research since 1993, words such as "regions" or "bookmarks" are unknown to me, at the moment, in this field. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These are terms which are essential to understand if one is to use WavePad successfully for music editing. In particular, I use music editing software (I noticed that you mention Amadeus II for the Mac) to process large sound files which may consist of many _unrelated_ musical selections or, in other cases, may contain different movements of a classical music selection, which need to be separted and identified separately for further processing. It is in performing these music editing tasks that the notions of "regions" and the use of bookmarks to keep all of this business straight is virtually essential. I of course understand that there are numerous sound editing tasks which perhaps do not require the understanding of these (basic, in _my_ opinion) editing tasks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- moreover just say how different any of us experience may be especially regarding what *you* have to do, i am using the mac since 1997 with soundedit, macthescope, amadeus II and pro, spectrafoo, signalscope pro and some more. still searching for something new and (hopefully) better, even to be proposed to other friends and collegues in our worldwide association (The Inspire Project) and journal, for the mac area, of course. so far i have to say that the best suited for the vlf purpose is probably "spectrumlab" a freeware from a german ham, for win pc only. maybe spectrumlab lacks a lot of very important features for the music or other audio fields but, as i said before, it depends on what *you* need to do. i do not see any vlf related software in the mac community, so i have to look for in different roads in order to realize the products who better fit with our needs. anyway, since i'm not an english language guy, i may have misunderstood your meaning. i'm sorry about that. i'd like take this opportunity to suggest (if i may) to the wavepad people to better clarify the difference between the 2 edition in the wavepad web pages directly. from my perspective potentially buyers will find that explanation useful. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Suggest away :-). However, it has been my experience using WavePad, and following this forum for a long period of time, that this will not happen. You will note (if you make the considerable effort) that the vast majority of questions directed (particularly by new users such as yourself) into "thin air" for desperate clarification by somebody, somewhere, novice and/or experienced, are never answered. It is exceptionally rare when questions such as the type which you have will be answered here by those who, in my opinion, should be providing these answers. In other words, these answers for clarity and transparency and informed knowledge are quite unlikely to come from the general readership of these NCH forums; most of these folks are simply struggling tremendously to make sense of this whole complex scenario. Apparently the NCH business model for selling an extensive line of audio-related software does not provide for such clarity and transparency, with the cost of doing business being given as the reason. Extremely few competing audio software developers use this same business model, although many do maintain user forums for discussion of their products. There is a huge difference here, in that _this_ forum is not a supplement to continuing support provided by NCH to its customers; rather, it is intended to serve as the sole support for those who choose not to pay an additional premium for direct company support. If I have this wrong, I would like to apologize to NCH for getting it wrong.....Surely "the proof of the pudding is in the eating". gooroo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKlee Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 i'm using audio software for vlf radiowaves research since 1993, words such as "regions" or "bookmarks" are unknown to me, at the moment, in this field. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These are terms which are essential to understand if one is to use WavePad successfully for music editing. In particular, I use music editing software (I noticed that you mention Amadeus II for the Mac) to process large sound files which may consist of many _unrelated_ musical selections or, in other cases, may contain different movements of a classical music selection, which need to be separted and identified separately for further processing. It is in performing these music editing tasks that the notions of "regions" and the use of bookmarks to keep all of this business straight is virtually essential. I of course understand that there are numerous sound editing tasks which perhaps do not require the understanding of these (basic, in _my_ opinion) editing tasks. -- hi gooroo :-) thank you very much for your kind and very easy to understand replay/explanation about region and bookmark. since i'm also a very music (listener) lover, you almost give me the vision on how to cut different part of one song to be sewed later in a different way, though kept together with a particular "region". or maybe i have not understood anything...:-( anyway you're giving me the will to try something different. thanks, i'll keep you update (don't worry, its always the same beginner will...:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooroo Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 i'm using audio software for vlf radiowaves research since 1993, words such as "regions" or "bookmarks" are unknown to me, at the moment, in this field.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These are terms which are essential to understand if one is to use WavePad successfully for music editing. In particular, I use music editing software (I noticed that you mention Amadeus II for the Mac) to process large sound files which may consist of many _unrelated_ musical selections or, in other cases, may contain different movements of a classical music selection, which need to be separted and identified separately for further processing. It is in performing these music editing tasks that the notions of "regions" and the use of bookmarks to keep all of this business straight is virtually essential. I of course understand that there are numerous sound editing tasks which perhaps do not require the understanding of these (basic, in _my_ opinion) editing tasks. -- hi gooroo :-) thank you very much for your kind and very easy to understand replay/explanation about region and bookmark. since i'm also a very music (listener) lover, you almost give me the vision on how to cut different part of one song to be sewed later in a different way, though kept together with a particular "region". or maybe i have not understood anything...:-( anyway you're giving me the will to try something different. thanks, i'll keep you update (don't worry, its always the same beginner will...:-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are getting a lot closer to the heart of this matter :-) Yes, it is about snipping out pieces of a long sound file and then reassembling them in a particular, organized manner. A piece of such a file, marked in a manner to permit its retrieval and use in this smaller identity, is known as a "region" by WavePad. You can learn about regions and how-to-do-it from the included WavePad help file. All of this marking and snipping, etc. requires keeping track of (note the bad English grammar :-)), and this is what bookmarks do for you. You can also learn about bookmarks in the WavePad help file. I am glad that you are making progress. You are much more fortunate than most of the poor souls in this forum who are struggling to find their way. Don't give up..... gooroo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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