musikone

==================================================== Perhaps the gods are not smiling upon you Musikone

========================================================== Here are three possible ways to interpret what you are asking; this is known as answering a question with a question. (1) Is the "archived radio broadcast" that you are referring to an audio file currently in your possession? (2) Is this a file that is currently available at a web site, and you would like to have it in your possession? (3) Is this a streaming radio broadcast from a web site, and you wish to convert this stream to a file in your possession? Select the one which applies and report back. Musikone (Since I am older than you are, which is all that counts, I am qualified to provide you with detailed, right instructions)

========================================================== You will not lose any sound quality simply by "saving" an edited file with a volume change. The edited file will replace the original file, while retaining all of its attributes (such as sampling rate, for example). Using "save as" will allow you to change the file's attributes (which do not appear in the sound wave that you see on the screen)and its location (directory). Musikone

================================================================ Why do you say "in the meantime"? There may be more big pluses than you can possibly imagine. Of course, as has been promised, the new release of WavePad ("soon," I understand, however this is defined) will be the best digital sound editor on this planet :-). This will certainly be the biggest plus that _I_ can imagine, given the past history of WavePad, as it is defined by the continuing complaints which appear regularly in this forum. But until this new WavePad release (followed by the verification of its promised, superior performance), it might be wise for you to stick with this mysterious, unnamed sound editor. But don't hold your breath while waiting for the new WavePad version to show up!! Musikone

============================== When is "soon"? Musikone

================================================== I understand this extremely well, although I strongly disagree with the concept of "unsupported players." This concept of unsupported players is not supported by the copyright law, which does not prohibit a user to move his copy from one player to another, for his own personal use. Hence I have no objection to removing this blight from legally (i.e., not violating the copyright law) purchased music. However, my question was addressed to a poster who did not state whether the file that is "protected" by DRM was obtained in conformance with the copyright law. Your "answer" to my question posed to someone else does not, of course, serve the purpose which I wanted served. The failure of this poster to answer my question suggests that he/she obtained the file in a manner which violates the copyright law. Had the file been obtained without violation of the copyright law, my question could have been answered in a straightforward manner long ago. This is indeed the problem which pervades these forums. People cannot seem to follow-up on things that they start, without understanding the consequences of what they are starting. This happens over and over and over and....... And I am sick and tired of it. Musikone

======================================================= Instead of waiting until Help Freezes Over (as the old saying goes), might it not be prudent to look for sound editing software that does not have such ongoing difficulties with Vista? Of course, there is always the alternative of not using Vista, in which case these difficulties disappear :-) As I recollect, I have suggested this profound alternative here in the past, perhaps before you got here to rediscover the same old problem all over again! In other words, why do you keep using something that you hate? Musikone

========================================= Did you buy these files? If so, who got your money? If not, who didn't get your money? Just wondering...... Musikone

========================================================= Before going any further, I believe that it would be a good idea to right-click on this (I assume mp3) file in Windows Explorer, then click on properties, click on audio properties, and report back here on the (1) size (2) length (3) sampling rate, (4) bit rate (5) number of bits. Also, download the "free" version of WavePad, which will give you just two weeks to try it out with its full capabilities before it drops back to "crippleware" (software with certain key features disabled). WavePad crippleware (which is free forever) is not going to be much use to you, so you will have to work fast unless you wish to purchase a license before you know that it will be satisfactory. My best guess, from what you have said so far, is that WavePad Master's version (the licensed version) will do what you want--unless your mp3 album is protected by DRM (Digital Rights Management), which the copyright holder of the music uses to keep buyers from using their music in a manner that _is_ permitted under at least the USA copyright laws but which the copyright holder may not be happy with. So, in order to proceed to get from point A to point B, as I mentioned in my previous post, your mp3 album must be free from such restrictions imposed by the one who sold you the music. If you bought the music. If you did not buy the music, then you may or may not have a problem..... If the road is clear :-), you will be able at least to open the mp3 file with WavePad, even the free version, at any time subsequent to downloading it at the NCH web site. It is what you do _after_ you have opened the file that will be restricted (for the free version) after more than two weeks following its downloading. So digest what I have said above, fuss and fiddle a bit, and report back. Just remember, there are all sorts of possible pitfalls in this process, all of which relate to various people wanting to be paid for music, paid for music processing software, paid for format conversion software, paid for recording software, etc., etc., etc. Just keep this in mind if you want to avoid getting lost :-) Musikone

=========================================== Let us start at the beginning! What is the "MP3 album" that you are talking about? When _I_ speak of an "MP3 album," I am referring to a disc containing a number of files which have the file extension .mp3. Hence it would make no sense to speak about converting my MP3 album in order to burn it onto disc. Are you with me? Could it mean that what you are calling an "MP3 album" is really one big MP3 file that contains a number of songs chained together? Or is it something else? If you would tell me what _you_ mean by an "MP3 album," I suspect that I will then be able to help you get from point A to point B. My apologies for being too dense to understand what you are talking about....... Musikone

================================================== It is unlikely that "anybody" is listening :-) Musikone [Al is in Wonderland!]

========================================================================== OK. Let's start with the Basics. How much are you willing to spend for a top-notch recording program that can give you the necessary files of an online radio program, _automatically on a prior schedule_, without any fuss and muss? You see, WavePad is _not_ basically recording software, and you cannot expect to get this type of performance from it. NCH has a candidate for this type of thing. At least I believe that this is the case, although I do not use it. So back to the Basics (sigh). How much are you willing to spend? Or do you expect to get it for free--forever and ever and ever? Be honest; i.e., if you really want help with this "simple" matter. Musikone [just call me Frank :-)]

======================================================= For your information, WavePad is a sound editor, and was not designed as a recorder. I assume that its (limited) recording capability is advertised to counter the intense competition, rather than to do really serious recording. This being said, I would strongly recommend that you purchase software specifically designed for recording. There is plenty of it around in various places, from many different companies. But before you search around, you should be aware that NCH makes an excellent, albeit limiti, sound recording program which it calls Golden Records. This program is not limited just recording sound from LP records, even though its name seems to imply as much. I would suggest that you see if it can do what you want. You can try it before buying, as is the case with most NCH software. Musikone

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============================================================= Marjorie needs to learn this bit of ancient wisdom: "It it were not for moaning and groaning, there would be no progress. Now read this again, Marjorie. Secondly, in my opinion, NCH's pathetic marketing (to which I refer as "marketeering") is deliberately deceptive, designed to conceal the fact that what the user is getting for free, and claimed to be WavePad, does _not_ perform up to the operational standard of the software digital sound editor that is _sold_ to the unwary user as "WavePad". In my opinion, there is NO valid place in the selling of computer software for such deliberate deception. Simply attributing it to marketing and dismissing it with a shrug does not address the problem of eliminating this pervasive consumer abuse. Musikone

============================================= So in _your_ opinion, my earlier use of the word "stubborn" to describe NCH's resistance to instituting a much-needed WavePad "marketeering" correction is very appropriate :-) Are we two the people in this entire world that understand this? Musikone [Al is in Wonderland!]