Z-Yogi Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I'm using the 'free' version of WavePad Master Edition 3.05. I installed it months ago, used it once, and lately am using it a lot. I'd go ahead and buy it if I thought that would solve my issue, but I'm not convinced it would. I've re-written this post, because upon further review, and using Wavepad in more different ways, I've found that my program crashes no matter WHAT I am doing! The only common denominator is that it ALWAYS happens when I am saving the file I've just modified. 90% of the crashes happen like so: Little window says 'Saving File...', 'Please Wait...', and the green progress bar will be at 100%. Then I get that 'error beep' (whatever you call that sound when Windows opens up an error window), and a "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library" window opens up with the big red X. It says "Runtime Error!". Gives my program name "Program /blah/blah/wavepad.exe" and the error message "abnormal Program Termination". When I hit "OK", the whole works disappears. About 10% of the time it gives me an error message saying the program terminated abnormally and I should contact tech support. Is this happening to anyone else out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nchgb Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Can you please explain what you are trying to do that is making the program crash? What kind of files are you editing, what format are you attempting to save them to? We will need some specifics before we're able to investigate the causes of your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Yogi Posted March 30, 2008 Author Share Posted March 30, 2008 Can you please explain what you are trying to do that is making the program crash? What kind of files are you editing, what format are you attempting to save them to? We will need some specifics before we're able to investigate the causes of your problem. I ripped a bunch of my CDs so I could put a lot of them on one CD and play them in my truck. Originally I ripped them in WMA, as my old truck had a stereo that could read and play WMA. The CD player in my new truck can't read WMA, but does read MP3. So I converted all my WMA song files into MP3 using 'Switch'. Since then, ALL my operations have been 'From' MP3 'To' MP3. No conversions, no other types. MP3. I made a 'Sampler' CD with songs from many different albums, and noticed the sound levels didn't match, forcing me to adjust the volume between songs. So I decided to 'fix' the sound levels so they all matched and a friend recommended 'Wavepad'. Initially I used the 'normalize' function in the "Batch" mode. The first set worked great. I had about 20 songs in the batch list and did the batch. On the 2nd batch of songs, it crashed as described after doing some of the songs. Then it started happening more and more often. No real pattern to it, but most often after at least 4-5 songs had worked normally. After babysitting the program normalizing all my albums (dealing with the crash 'feature' about every 10th song), I realized the 'normalize' hadn't done a good job matching up recording levels, since it simply amplified it until any single 'beat' of the song was at maximum level. So I started loading albums up one at a time and amplified the songs myself. I also noticed on some albums (like Pink Floyd's "The Wall") that the mp3 'cut' locations between songs was sometimes not 'right' so I was fixing those. During this operation, the crashes happened less often, but still occasionally, when I tried to save the files. The crash ALWAYS happens the very moment it finishes saving an MP3 file I've made some change to. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, but I don't think it worked as the reinstall seemed to happen almost instantly, so I don't think my uninstall really happened. There is no 'uninstall' option so I just tried to delete the wavepad folder. Any help is appreciated because as of right now, my 'trial' version has expired and I can't use it. If I can get this bug fixed, I'm ready to buy the real version. Thank you for any help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio206 Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Hey I'm also experiencing the same 'Runtime Error' message on about every 8th track i process My tracks are 320 quality mp3's, all i'm doing is cropping the beginings and endings so that each track plays as soon as i hit the play button on my CD decks. Not even messing with any effects or tools. I then simply hit the 'Save File' button. The quality is already set at 320 otherwise i hit the 'Save File as', then select mp3, then select the quality. Now oddly the programme doesn't crash after a 'Save File as' only when I'm hitting 'Save File'. My version is 3.05 if that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayleighsmith Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Hi Guys & Gals! - I just joined the Forum looking for Runtime Error solutions like you all describe in this link. I also am experiencing the Runtime error - but only in the Batch Mode. I am running a script file to trim both ends of the MP3 file, then add 1 sec of silence to beginning & 2 sec of silence to the end. The Runtime error, for me, seems to occur when a condition in the song file is expected, but not found by the batch processor. For instance - The file in question has nothing to trim at the beginning of the track. I cen go into manual program & see that there is no silence at the beginnig & manually edit it in at that point. I have run multiple folders with up to 36 songs total in Batch Mode with no Runtime Error. In all cases of error though, a parameter is not found that the system expects to find. My gripe is that the entire Wavepad program abends back to the Desktop icon & everything needs to be restarted again to continue. My workaround has been to always specify a different folder to save the edited programs into. That way I can tell how far along I got before the Runtime Error gets me. I hope this information is helpful to somebody - & just maybe Tech Support can offer a remedy? Regards - Mr Magoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywally Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 I ripped a bunch of my CDs so I could put a lot of them on one CD and play them in my truck. Originally I ripped them in WMA, as my old truck had a stereo that could read and play WMA. The CD player in my new truck can't read WMA, but does read MP3. So I converted all my WMA song files into MP3 using 'Switch'. Since then, ALL my operations have been 'From' MP3 'To' MP3. No conversions, no other types. MP3. I made a 'Sampler' CD with songs from many different albums, and noticed the sound levels didn't match, forcing me to adjust the volume between songs. So I decided to 'fix' the sound levels so they all matched and a friend recommended 'Wavepad'. Initially I used the 'normalize' function in the "Batch" mode. The first set worked great. I had about 20 songs in the batch list and did the batch. On the 2nd batch of songs, it crashed as described after doing some of the songs. Then it started happening more and more often. No real pattern to it, but most often after at least 4-5 songs had worked normally. After babysitting the program normalizing all my albums (dealing with the crash 'feature' about every 10th song), I realized the 'normalize' hadn't done a good job matching up recording levels, since it simply amplified it until any single 'beat' of the song was at maximum level. So I started loading albums up one at a time and amplified the songs myself. I also noticed on some albums (like Pink Floyd's "The Wall") that the mp3 'cut' locations between songs was sometimes not 'right' so I was fixing those. During this operation, the crashes happened less often, but still occasionally, when I tried to save the files. The crash ALWAYS happens the very moment it finishes saving an MP3 file I've made some change to. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, but I don't think it worked as the reinstall seemed to happen almost instantly, so I don't think my uninstall really happened. There is no 'uninstall' option so I just tried to delete the wavepad folder. Any help is appreciated because as of right now, my 'trial' version has expired and I can't use it. If I can get this bug fixed, I'm ready to buy the real version. Thank you for any help! mine has also crashed going into SAVE as weird as this may sound rename your working folder; under; file wavepad options; audio processing; audio working folder; clik that button, then name your own folder and partition C: or D:....[ example: D:WavePad- working folder ] once I did that, most of my anomalies stopped!!! the only thing I need to figure out is, why NOTHING will record on vista....NOTHING!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbastien Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 *** See update below: I want to rip my CDs to mp3. normalize them, then play them on my mp3 player. I've run into this same 'abnormal termination' issue when normalizing with wavepad. I notice that it happens ONLY with mp3 -> mp3 conversions. I've not had any problems with wav -> mp3. The problem is also inconsistent. When running in batch mode, I'll get the "abnormal termination" error upon saving a converted file, then the next time I run against the same source file, it completes successfully and fails a few files later. In trying to find a batch converter that actually WORKS, I found some discussions that the file name shouldn't contain commas, even though the comma is a legitimate Windows character. When I tried removing the commas from the files names, wavepad was successful at first -- so I thought I had found the work-around. But then it terminated abnormally later on comma-less files so I had just discovered the inconsistency of the problem, not the work-around . I'm using Wavepad 3.05 to batch convert both 320kbps and 120kbps bit rate mp3 sources, normalize to 70%, save in a different directory with same settings. Fails eventually on one of the file saves every time. Since this is so obviously a reproducable and fixable bug, it bothers me that I've been buying software (bought Switch and wanted to buy Wavepad) from a company that doesn't care enough to address this issue. I haven't seen any posting from NCH since the onetime request in March. ** Mea culpa: After the above post, which resulted from using the latest wavepad master download, I realized that NCH had a new 'free' version of wavepad available. (v3.11). Didn't expect the free version to be later than the production version so I hadn't looked for it, but so it is. Anyway -- Using v3.11, I just ran successful conversions on several files that had been failing. The new version has a new twist that enables auto-trim by default. Not sure if I want that or not, so I've been disabling it while testing for the bug. But at this early point it seems that NCH has responded and fixed the 'abnormal termination' bug. Thanks! And sorry for any unkind words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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