Russ Croucher

I had to update my split procedure because of the video pad file changes in the latest version 11.20. I requested that they give an export key for the export all sequences but have not seen an update. From this procedure I need either a key sequence so I can specify the output file type. In all cases I need to match the input resolution. This is actually the default if you don't have a project. However, a project overrides the default. If they were to move the auto match resolution to the top of the export list the problem would go away. However, a project file overrides the default exportfind auto export at the same resolution. Here is the link to my procedure again. This is specify higher in the thread. https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuSetTxgq7JxqOlcv7dQq5pVLdP4Jg?e=kUNGYH Here is the latest export and I had add several down sequences to accommodate the auto match export rem start videopad project loading the file with sound before continuing start %fname%.vpj gosub :waitVideopad rem we have no key shortcut for "export all sequences" keystack Alt f Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Enter Enter Enter tab tab tab Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Enter Enter Enter rem wait for videopad to export both sequence files gosub :waitVideopad rem quit videopad without saving keystack /W9 alt-F4 /w9 tab enter delay 5 Thoughts?

Okay, I updated my procedure that splits the file into 2/3 pieces. This is now a lot more complex in the sense that it handles up to 3 pieces if needed. In other words, it will handle up to 12 GB files. It makes A, B, and C files. It uses several different methods of determining if any of those 3 files are larger than 4 GB. If any of them are it chooses a smaller split project. It starts out with 2 hours for each sequence or 6 hours. If any of those files are greater then 4 GB it would choose the 3 hour project or one hour per sequence. If any of those 3 are greater than 4 GB. It will choose a 40 minute sequence version. This allows for long VHS files and short complex files that use 1920x1080. https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuSetTxgq7JxqOlcv7dQq5pVLdP4Jg?e=kUNGYH The one problem that I ended up with is determining that I needed the output to be the same resolution as the input file. This is one of the selections of the export but it would be nice if defaults to this for the export all sequences option. Here is the excerpt of the actual video pad submission that key stuffing causes my problems. rem start videopad project loading the file with sound before continuing start %fname%.vpj gosub :waitVideopad rem we have no key shortcut for "export all sequences" keystack Alt f Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Enter Enter Enter tab tab tab Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Enter Enter Enter rem wait for videopad to export both sequence files gosub :waitVideopad rem quit videopad without saving keystack /W9 alt-F4 /w9 tab enter delay 5 -0- I just want to point out that the zip file in the previous post includes 3 projects are that are not needed but were used in the testing. I have a 2 minute, 3 minute, and 4 minute project that was used for the testing since I don't want to wait for a 2 hour conversion to make sure something works. I also have a 10 minute dummy project "i012 .mp4" that is just a 10 minute portion of the baseball game as a dummy file. This makes testing the project fast.

I submitted the request. I also included my procedure above. So they get an idea what I'm doing. Hopefully they'll give me a key to use.

Below is a small excerpt from the procedure file that splits the project into 2 pieces. This is the real meat of the operation. They make the procedure so easy to stuff keys into other processes with the KEYSTACK command.. rem the file to be split will be put into "i.mp4" copy %fname%.mp4 i.mp4 /q rem the "split.vpj" defaults to 2 hours and other projects can be selected for shorter length is required copy split.vpj %fname%.vpj /q if exist "%fname% (Sequence 1).mp4" del "%fname% (Sequence 1).mp4" /q if exist "%fname% (Sequence 2).mp4" del "%fname% (Sequence 2).mp4" /q rem start videopad project loading the file with sound before continuing start %fname%.vpj gosub :waitVideopad rem we have no key shortcut for "export all sequences" keystack Alt f Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Down Enter Enter Enter Enter Enter rem wait for videopad to export both sequence files gosub :waitVideopad rem quit videopad without saving keystack /W9 alt-F4 /w9 tab enter delay 5 rem rename the sequence files to (A and B). if exist %fname%A.mp4 del %fname%A.mp4 /q if exist %fname%B.mp4 del %fname%B.mp4 /q ren "%fname% (Sequence 1).mp4" %fname%A.mp4 /q ren "%fname% (Sequence 2).mp4" %fname%B.mp4 /q del %fname%.vpj /q del %fname%.mp4 /q Notice in the procedure above, we don't have an export key for the key for export all sequences and I am dependent on the menu that video pad is currently using for v11.17 version. I need this request a shortcut key.

"borate" when you get a chance I'd like you to check my procedure. I now have an official procedure that will split MP4 files greater than 4 GB in size into 2 pieces. I do this because some of the cheaper DVD/Blu-ray/flash drive players will only play FAT32 videos which are limited to 4 GB in size for one file. So a small solution is to split into 2 files A and B. This doubles our size to 8 GB. So this batch file goes through all the MP4 files with the given number set and determines if the file is big enough it needs to be split into 2 pieces. If it is, then it submits a project to video pad which will load the entire video into 2 sequences. The 1st sequence just does 2 hours and the last sequence does the rest of the file. My procedure does use a dummy file that is 6 hours and 15 minutes in length. To retain the lossless mode requirements the file size is set to the 640x480 (old analog video size). However, the update rate is limited to 5 FPS. This still allows the lossless mode. All the files use in all the procedures are less than the 6 hours and 15 minute limit. Here is the link to my procedure zip file which is a combination of about 6 files https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuSetTxgq7JxqOlcv7dQq5pVLdP4Jg?e=kUNGYH This procedure uses a CMD batch file concept. 30 years ago in the early 90s there was a product called "4 DOS". This was back when Windows was creating Windows 3.1. I don't remember the company that supported 4 DOS back then. They then updated their product called "4nt". That goes back about 25 years ago. 25 years ago everybody was still using command lines except for the newer GUI support with Apple. Anyway, Microsoft abandoned the command line interface when they came out with 4 NT. All the 40 commands that are in the command line have not changed to 25 years except for just a few tweaks to run with the new operating systems. Anyway, JP software has taken over the 4 NT concept and still supports it. They have probably added thousands of commands to the command line concept. You basically pay a license fee for one user to do development ($100) and then a free install for all the computers that use the runtime version. The product is quite incredible, especially if you know any concept of the CMD interface. Most people don't use command line interface anymore since we now use more Visual Studio and that type of product. So even the split file that I have above is designed to edit the batch file with your arguments rather than use a command line since no one uses command lines anymore. JP software has changed the name of 4NT to TCC. They are currently up to version 28 and all of my procedures still use version 27. Here is a link to their free runtime install if you want to try it. /downloads/v27/tcc-rt.exe here is a link to their website https://jpsoft.com/ -0- I want to explain why in my procedure doesn't store the "i.mp4" and why I store it as "i615.mp4". This is because video pad has a method of looking for the input file in your current directory 1st and if it cannot find it there, it will look in the procedure where the project was stored. So if there was a "i.mp4" in another directory it would use it. This procedure relies on the fact that it update this file constantly and cannot allow "i.mp4" droppings to be left lying around. Therefore the procedure makes a point to make sure that it is deleted since it is considered a temporary file. So I force the user to rename or copy the "i615.mp4" to the generic "i.mp4" so it would not be found accidentally in another directory.

Actually I don't see any other way to do the software except truncate with what you're given. It's easy if the file shows up shorter but you can do nothing if it's longer. What you described above would work but it would require the the mouse and extra keystrokes. Remember I'm creating an automated procedure that will handle all cases by replacing each file with a shorter file to solve the problem. The project file is only saved one time with the dummy file which allows us to change directories add filters different procedures all kinds of things but once all that said, in the form of a macro batch file everything is fixed and the file was never saved again. Once I am done with the split file I will post my macro on this thread for all the lurkers out there that may read this or just for interest.

Maybe I have stumble across a bug that I've never reported. Try it yourself. Take a project file drop it into video pad, do anything you want to it, save the file(VPJ), replace that file with a larger file of longer length. When you bring up video pad and execute the save button it will only save up to the truncated amount and truncate the rest of the file. I've seen this for many years so once the file is loaded any longer length is truncated when the video pad project VPJ is saved. I found this to be also true when I would spoof video pad when I would do my 4K drone videos and I condensed everything to a small resolution for editing. It only works if the file is shorter length than the original file. I don't know why or care. If this is a bug let me know. Maybe I have stumble across something and worked around it in. A different way. As far as the audio yes delaying the audio file worked as a single channel in video pad. Again however, the final file must be shorter than the VPJ when it was created and saved. Again, I don't know why. Maybe I have stumble across something and didn't realize it. Try it let me know. I know when I'm creating my 4K videos of my drone I converted everything to HD with handbrake before I even start my operations. Then I'm able to edit everything as video captions, music, etc. etc. which I have learned here and then after I'm done with all the work I switch back to the 4K version for the final rendering by just changing the files in the folder. But again the length of all the files must be shorter than the original length because of the VPJ. Again, I don't care because the same file but small resolution. Let me know. -0- I would love to find out more information about writing macros inside video pad which I have never done. People tend to write software with what they know. I also am not limited by one particular program as I use anything in my basket of programs to do a particular operation. Do you have information you could forward me on writing macros inside video pad? I know that you have the ability to do some batch file stuff with video filters but don't do anything when it comes to the loading your own filters. So I have tended to create video pad projects that have these specialized filters loaded and then change the input files as I see fit. Example, if I want to use up particular color correction filter that is not supported by video pad I will load a project that uses that filter and then change the input file as I see fit before I submit the project to video pad. Then I would change the output name to my desire and proceed to the next file. This was because the batch mode of video pad did not support that particular video filter. -0- It's the timeline in the project that's limiting your length. So when a project (VPJ) is saved the timeline length is saved. Therefore the timeline cannot be longer than what was saved with the project. That is what I found. Is there way to get around that? I would love for it to use the input file's length in the timeline.

The dummy file problem I'm talking about is a situation that I figured out several years ago with video pad that if you store a smaller file name them what is actually used. Video pad will use that length it will never expand on the new file. Remember the I .mp4 I use as a dummy name and if I were to put a longer file than what video pad is expecting it truncates to the link that it was stored. The capture card I use actually give me the video. 2 frames later than the audio that's received with debut. So therefore I must delay the audio by exactly 60 ms to line up perfectly with the video. If that delay file is shorter than any input file I present to video pad it will truncate to that length. So I have a dummy file that is 6 hours in length that delays the audio from the video for alignment. Any file that is shorter than this length will be handled by video pad just fine. Apparently this particular problem that I'm planing is also true with the splitting the file. I don't find this is a problem because when I load my project file I use the dummy input that splits the file. Example, if I have a 6 hour file, the 1st segment will store 2 hours and the 2nd segment will store 4 hours. If I have it an input file of 4 hours then the 1st will store 2 hours and the 2nd will store only 2 hours. If I save that project name it will only allow the input file up to 4 hours in length. So if I then give it a 6 hour file it will put 2 hours in the 1st file and only 2 hours in the 2nd file truncating the last 2 hours of the 6. I have verified this with my procedure using only file save with video pad. I'm okay with that as I use it with my other procedures. Now do you understand? I'm wondering if it would be easier to select the different sequences then trying to do. Export all sequences without a shortcut key. I could walk through the sequences and dual control be for each sequence. That might be an easier solution. What you think? You have a shortcut key to go to a particular sequence window? What about selected different between sequence 1 and sequence 2.

Okay I have a project file, using sequences that works. However, the input file must be longer than any of the data files that will be used. This is like all my other examples that need a dummy input file of the longest length I would never use. Example, if I'm going to split a 6 hour file into 2 pieces the dummy file must be 6 hours in length. Video pad will reduce the input file to the smaller amount but it will not go larger. So the 1st sequence is to output the 1st 2 hours in sequence 1 and the remaining file length in sequence 2. I did have a little trouble using your example above. So what I ended up doing was creating one sequence to load just 1st 2 hours and clipping the rest of the file in the timeline. Then creating a sequence to load only 2 hours to the end. My question is is there any way to output all sequences with a keycode (not a menu choice) or do I have to save file and then scroll down 8 times to get to the output all sequences which would make be dependent if you ever change your menu.

What version are you using because I do not have "create for seg 1". I have stuff like split the tracks, delete the section, crop the section, export selected area. I'm using 11.08. When my doing wrong? I am definitely select in the blue area like you suggested.

That sounds like a pretty good plan. I started with video pad way before we even had sequences and never really investigated how they worked. What I want to do is set up one sequence to just read the file in and write the 1st 2 hours and the 2nd sequence to take the rest of the file 2 hours on. Typically my procedure batch files would put everything to a standard input file like "I .mp4". Then I would be looking for 2 files to be output that can be altered on my behalf like "A.mp4" and "B.mp4". Does this sound plausible? I try to keep my processes generic enough so you guys can make newer improvements it won't cause me problems. I guess I need to look at the video tutorial on how sequences work. You have such a video?

I'm working on a procedure that uses video pad to split movie files into 2 pieces. The reason for this is some Blu-ray players do not accept video files larger than 4 gigs because they must be formatted using the exFAT or NTFS file system. They only support FAT32, which is limited to 4 gigs. So if the file is larger than the 4 GB I split it in the 2 pieces that contain an A and B. So my goal is to put two hours in the A file and the rest into the B file. I want to use this in an automated procedure which does not use a mouse. I can do all this in something like C# but I like the flexibility that video pad offers a lot of different formats. So I'm trying to find ways to do everything with keystrokes since I'm stuffing keys into the process. I realize in this process that the program flushes the keyboard buffer went is doing things. So I know I have to wait until the program is idle before I can stuff it the appropriate keys. There are keystrokes in the help procedure which I have used but it looks like there are some items that cannot be switched with keys and require the mouse. Maybe you guys can help me and maybe there are keys I can use. Example I use a shift-G to enter a cursor position in the timeline. I would then like to do and "L" to split the video. In story mode it would go from a single story to duel. So my goal would be to write the 1st 2 hours to one file in the 2nd 2 hours to another file. But I don't know how to select which file to use with just the keyboard. With the mouse I could delete 1 side cook, wright the file, use the control-Z(undo) then delete the other side to write that file. I'm having trouble trying to figure out how to do that with all keyboard actions so I can put it in the procedure. Is there any way to tell what box video pad is in in which keys work with that box? They do tell you and that help what keys are working what box they don't tell you what box is in. I know I can use the mouse and select a box but I want to do this with the full-blown procedure. Example when you select the final output window the shift -G works but if you hit the tab button enough times you will get to the cursor box where the shift-G is just entering the G uppercase. This is not what I wanted.

I updated the link below to include the 1 minute segments from Windows 7 and Windows 10 using different encoders. Apparently I don't have a problem with size with Windows 10 because I redid it and it comes in and 50m. Notice how small the H265 size is WOW! https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuSetTxgq7JxqOhvGCGzoOnH62eaSQ?e=3iYvaS

I use v10.96 in default file size both Windows 7 and Windows 10. Apparently the Windows 11 has the same file size as Windows 10. Which is roughly twice the size as Windows 7. I would love to know why.

You cannot use lossless you must use the re-encode from 4K down to HD(1920x1080). When I run W7 in lossless mode it comes up with the same file sizes everything else 259K. It's when you do the re-encode Windows 7 down to HD only comes up with 49K and Windows 10 comes up with 110K. I'm curious to see what Windows 11 comes in as.

Okay I tried my problem on my other computers and have the results updated on the cloud link above. They are perfectly rocksolid both Windows 7 and Windows 10. So apparently my personal computer workstation has caught some that causes a problem or I have installed something that causes a problem. So it's not video pad it's some other application I have installed apparently that causes that slight jitter. I will look into it. That's a real advantage that I have been both being a software engineer and having lots of workstations with different Windows. One comment I would like to know from you guys is why Windows 10 produces a MP4 twice the size of Windows 7 when all the configuration information is exactly the same (default file size, same FPS, etc. etc.). That really seems like I should make my MP4's with Windows 7. Is Windows 11 the same? This would action be a great example above to test the size. Since it creates exactly a 1 minute video of 4K.

Actually what I'm going to do is go back to an old version. Every couple weeks I back my entire system up with Acronis and I can go back to any version I want the last several years. So I'll go back a few months and see if the problem goes away. I know I have to update the version software to 11.08 but that's a normal thing.

If I completely uninstall it and reinstall it will I still have my license? I'm on the quarterly payment system.

You take my video pad HD version and it's solid on your end untouched by video pad? So it's something with my computer? Should I uninstall and reinstall it? Maybe something happened to my computer? It seems to be rocksolid as long as I don't change the resolution size.

I'm experiencing problems downsizing a 4K video to HD(1920x1080). The original source file was an Apple MOV. I was able to convert it to a 4K MP4 with video pad perfectly. My goal was to go to HD but was experiencing some problems. So I took a 1 minute segment of this 4K video and created a 1 minute 4K video in MP4. This has become my source file that I used to create a 1 minute segment in HD with video pad and a 1 minute segment in HD with handbrake. The handbrake produces the file perfectly but video pad seems to have some flickering going on. I'm just asking for help. Here is a link to the 3 files which is the source 1 minute 4K file and the 2 output files 1 handbrake and 1 video pad. https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuSetTxgq7JxqOhvGCGzoOnH62eaSQ?e=3iYvaS I downloaded the latest version today 11.08.

I am now configuring my computer to use a dual-boot Windows 7 and Windows 10 on the same machine. This is because of a bug that I found with the image stabilization process that Windows 7 reports the wrong information but Windows 10 seems to fix the problem. Here is a link to the problem. https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuSetTxgq7JxqMYTTk4DnG9fqasxcA?e=Hq0fT9 It seems that Windows 10 fixed a bug that Windows 7 reported the wrong size of the file. In working with 640x480 this is not a problem. It's when I have to work with miniDV and Digital8. However, it seems that the licensing issues are NCH seems to think it's 2 different computers. I wonder if anyone has experienced this type of problem. I have other issues that I need to use Windows 7 because Windows 7 is my workhorse machines. And I like to have license computers for all these. My Matrox card use Windows 7 for all of its analog work and they have migrated to all digital which is not good for my older analog systems. Windows 10's has couple good improvements but because of my backup Acronis images I create for backups I don't want updates. You cannot turn update off with Windows 10 (Microsoft in their wisdom). What should I do? Is there any way to get NCH to treat this as one license?

I'm waiting for a response to this question no one seems to be updating me. Does the new version support 16 bits color depth. 48 bits total or RGB? I be more than happy to upgrade my license if it supports it now.

aha!! I guess I didn't realize I specify lossless export limited me to what I can use. When I say normal export I see H265. Thanks for the heads up.

I just checked this morning with 10.96 and I only get H264 and MPEG4 with those 2 options. Maybe you can see what I'm doing wrong. It must be something you must install on the driver something. Let me know. Because I would like to compare the 2. Between handbrake and VP.

I have never gotten it to work I only get H264 and MPEG4. Do I have to install something or turn on something? This is also Windows 7 and Windows 10. I think that was another reason I chose to handbrake time years ago.