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It sounds like port forwarding on the router is not directing incoming requests to the broadwave server. If it works internally, then the broadwave PC is ok. From outside your network, try it first with your public IP address and the correct port number. Once you get that working, you can use DNS to substitute the domain name stuff instead. It's difficult to tell which bit isn't working, so that should separate it into two steps.

Hello Ian, You don't need uPnP, as you just manually configure up the router, either by defining a service and a firewall rule for incoming traffic, or port forwarding, dependent upon the router. But, it's possible your router doesn't support NAT Loopback, which means you cannot use your public IP address from within your local network. If that's the case, you need to ask a friend to try to connect from outside. PFPortchecker may be checking from outside and that will indicate it works.

Hello Aforadio, Broadwave supports .mp3 format, you could try that. It may be that the iPhone doesn't like the parameters, such as ?kbps=32 and similar, so you can leave these out, though the bitrate will be higher. E.g. just use http://yourIP:port/broadwave.mp3 This will select the live stream.

Hello, If you can run Broadwave on a PC in your internal network and listen on a second PC on the internal network, then everything on the PC running Broadwave is ok. Your router needs to forward the port you are using (e.g. port 88) to the internal IP address of the Broadwave PC. Ideally this should be a static address. If the router supports NAT Loopback, then simply use the second PC to connect to your public address and the same port number. If it doesn't support NAT Loopback, you'll need to get a friend to try it from outside your local network. If that doesn't work, double-check the IP address used, and also the port forwarding on the router. If your router has a logging function, you should enable full logging and see if your friend's incoming request is received or not, and if so, whether the request is forwarded to the correct PC.

Hi, welcome to the forum. From your description, it's unclear what the problem is, though running Broadwave should not interfere with normal web browsing. From what you are saying, perhaps you are trying to connect to broadwave from a PC on your local network using the public IP address - this will only work if you router/modem supports "NAT loopback" - and many home routers don't. Have a read of some of my earlier posts about port forwarding , NAT and so on, and come back and let us know exactly what works and doesn't.

Hi, Welcome to the forum. Firstly, many of us don't look at the forum every day, some people only drop by once every couple of weeks or more. Broadwave is a Windows program, though you may be able to try it under Wine. I have found that some audio programs don't work very well using Wine. I haven't tried Broadwave, but I'd suggest starting with Wine 1.0, as I use another Windows audio program and it doesn't run with Wine 1.2, but does with 1.0.

I'm not sure what you mean by "wizard test". If you can connect to Broadwave from another computer on your own internal network, then Broadwave and its PC's firewall is configured fine. Now you need to open that port number on your modem/router and direct that port to the Broadwave PC. Then connect to it using your public IP address in place of the internal network address. E.g. if your Broadwave PC is 192.168.1.4, replace that part with your public IP address (see www.ipaddy.com or similar). Be aware that you might have to try it from a different PC somewhere else on the internet, e.g. get a friend to try to connect from their house. This is because not all domestic modem/routers permit what's called "NAT Loopback". NAT Loopback lets you use your own public IP address locally, from within your network, and the router will re-route the request back inside as if the request had come from outside. If your router doesn't support NAT Loopback, then you cannot use your public IP address internally, it will always be blocked. So, if you think everything is configured correctly on your router, but it doesn't work with the public IP address, then get a friend to try it and see if it works from there.

Hi David, if you're connected directly, it might be that you're using a usb modem or dial-up, or similar, and in these cases it's likely that your public IP address has changed? Regards Ken

Hi I hadn't tried it till yesterday, but it works fine for me, though I have to wait at least 30 secs to let it buffer enough before playing. What URL string are your users using? I tried .../broadwave.mp3?kpbs=24

Hi, Have you had a look at these two posts? Let us know how far you get. http://nch.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=13099 http://nch.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=13101 Also, if you are using the Live Stream, you should see the Broadwave level meter moving. When I first tried Win 7 on a new PC, I found that the input level from my mp3 player was too low. Regards Ken

Hi Jerry, I looked again at your diagram, and here's how I would do it. I've also set out my assumptions, if they are wrong, please shout. System 2 (mixing studio) I assume this is simply a means of converting the analog input to a data stream? If this is correct, then connect your sound source to AUX-IN. In Windows Recording Properties, select AUX-IN as the active selection. This will make Broadwave stream AUX-IN to the Live output. Use the AUX-IN level control to set the level - watch the "led meter" in Broadwave as a guide. You will also be able to monitor the sound locally using normal PC speakers connected to AUX-OUT, and should be able to operate the playback volume control independently of the stream level. You will need to follow the usual rigmarole of setting the port number in the firewall and checking you can connect to the stream, firstly locally, then remotely after you've set port forwarding in your router at site 2. System 1 (Dedicated Server) I assume this is a distribution server which will allow any user to connect to its stream to receive the audio. You are doing it this way simply to limit connections and bandwidth to site 2. You will need an audio card, any old one, as you cannot set sound properties without the sound driver being loaded. I suggest you use Winamp (or your favorite media player) to connect to the stream from site 2. Usual advice applies. However, if the stream is interrupted for any reason, receiving will stop. So how can we get round this? Well, I suggest creating a playlist in Winamp, and putting two identical entries for the same stream (use the format http: // public IP of site 2 : port / broadwave.mp3 - without the spaces Now when the stream is interrupted, Winamp will just move to the next item in the playlist, and will thus try to connect again to the same stream. Now that you've got the sound into System 1, you need to stream it out with Broadwave. Just select Stereo Mix in Recording Properties, and the Broadwave Live 1 stream will listen to whatever Winamp is listening to. Same advice re IP address and ports apply here too, and need to be tested independently. Speakers or headphones in the server's sound card will confirm you are receiving audio, and Broadwave's meter will confirm it's available for streaming. Let us know how you get on.

Hi Jerry, I'm not sure that you need the cable. On a single PC it's possible to use something like Winamp or Windows Media Player to "listen" to the stream from elsewhere (in your case the other system), and then relay that with Broadwave live by selecting the "stereo mix" in the recording control. The stereo mix selection is actually whatever Winamp or WMP is listening to. Rgds Ken

Sorry it's taken a while to respond again. 1. I'm not sure what you mean by that. 2. This is the local IP address, so any PC also locally connected should test the stream using this IP address. If a local PC won't connect, it usually indicates a port number wrong, or firewall. What error do you get when you try http:// 192.168.1.101:88 / broadwave.mp3 (without the spaces)? If the local IP address correct (I mean is it fixed for that PC)? Also 2. I haven't used PFconfig, I would be tempted to use the http admin screens on the router directly. 5. For remote users (not on your local network) you will need to use your public IP address. I would make sure it's working internally by using Winamp to connect locally before getting to this stage.

Hi, I'm just a user too, but I try to help where I can, though I only come and read the board perhaps once a week or so. I haven't used ExpressTalk, so I can't help with that, but you can test whether the Broadwave part works by simply playing a MP3 music file with Win Media Player or Winwamp (etc) and you should see the Live 1 bar graph moving. The input to Broadwave is selected using Windows Recording Control Properties. Select "Stereo Mix" or similar for the sound from the MP3 playing, or select Aux In for the aux in jack on the PC. These may be named differently on your config, but the principle is the same. See other replies for more detail, for example here: http://nch.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=13101 Anyway, once the Live bargraph is moving, Broadwave is serving a stream. The next step is to check you can connect to the stream from another PC using Winamp (etc). Start with one on your local network, checking the IP address and port number are correct, and also double-check Windows Firewall (or other firewall) to make sure the correct port number is open, don't assume it is. I've written up how this is done on Windows 7 here http://nch.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=13099 and elsewhere for XP. Once both of these bits are working, then you can move on to ExpressTalk.

That seems odd, I also use Windows XP SP3 with no problems. I'm wondering if that's a feature of the device driver for your sound card. Do you use the default driver installed by Windows, or is it a proprietary driver provided by the soundcard manufacturer?

Hi, I'm not familiar with these packages, could you describe how you've got Broadwave set up. Do you mean multiple live inputs (music & mic for exmaple) feeding one output, or do you mean two quite independent outputs?

Bump - to push this one back up the list as it may answer some of the recent questions.

Hi, The source for the live stream is selected using the Windows "recording control" properties, so you should be able to select that independently of the selection in the "playback control". You can simply set the master volume to zero in the playback properties. If that doesn't work, please post back with the setting you are using, including which operating system.

Hi The first step is to make sure you can listen locally, using one pc on the local network to connect to the PC running Broadwave. To check this, use the local IP address of the PC running Broadwave and the port number specified in the Broadwave setup. You also need to check that the firewall on the Broadwave PC is passing that port. Don't just assume it will, and also check the port number is correct. I have found that I specificall need to open the correct port number as it seems to offer a different one by default. Once you can listen locally, you can be reassured that the Broadwave PC is set up correctly, and now turn to getting a remote connection working. You will need to use your public IP address, and check that the router is forwarding the correct port to the correct local address. If you are still stuck, please post back the full detail of what you've tried so far and and which point it stops working.

Hi, If you can't even connect locally, check Windows Firewall (if you're running it, as it will sometimes also need to be told to pass port 88, as it seems to suggest port 85 for Broadwave. If that works, check you are using your public IP address and that your router forwards the correct port to the correct internal LAN address.

Hi djgilla If you are using the live stream, you can omit the source and data rate from the url, at least for test purposes. I use ...broadwave.mp3 and it works fine, defaulting to the live stream. I suggest you use the .mp3 format for testing as most media players will handle that ok. If you are sure the IP address is correct, check the port forwards through your firewall. I have discovered that sometimes Windows Firewall wants to let port 85 through for Broadwave even though port 88 is selected in Broadwave's options. You may have to specifically add port 88 to the firewall rules. Check also the port forwarding on your router too. Check out some of the earlier posts on this. Have you got a successful connection using an internal LAN IP address?

Hi Adam, I haven't tried with a Blackberry, but I can offer some suggestions. Have you tried all the formats available? I would suggest trying the mp3 format if you haven't already. Just use broadwave.mp3 in the URL. Also, it might be a question of bandwidth. As an experiment, I tried to connect via a dial-up connection using a 2G mobile phone's GPRS link, and although it connected it didn't have a fast enough data rate to sustain live audio.

No, I don't think so. There's always a delay due to the encoding & decoding, though it varies according to the device used. I also have hardware devices for encoding my live stream at the studio and decoding at the transmitter and it has a delay too. Live digital radio and TV typically suffers from a delay. The total delay from studio to off-air receiver is about 25 seconds in my case using hardware devices. I use Broadwave for technical/management monitoring of various feeds but have used it live on a few rare occasions, and the delay has not been significantly more than usual.

I don't think this can be done solely within a PC, you may have to use an external mixer, even a small one would do. I haven't tried it, but I suggest connecting your mic to one channel of the mixer, and the PC line-out to another channel. The music would be generated on the PC using any music player, but you might find it worth looking at ZaraRadio for this. Then connect the output of the mixer to the line-in of the PC. You must configure the Windows Recording Control to select line-in and NOT stereo mix (or similar names). The selection in Recording Control is the source for Broadwave's Live stream. When your select Line-in for the Recording source, Broadwave Live relays the PC's input and not the sound generated on the Playback portion of the soundcard.

Hi, I tried the link from your web page, and it worked for me. The track started with the opening of Pink Floyd's Money. I opened it with Windows Media Player.